My Premier Conrad Johnson 17 LS has problems. The heights are gone. I play now with a Premier 11 a and a classic Quad 34 (!) I Will consult a specialist.
My 17 LS is about 25 years old. I could try a CJ 6 or CJ 7. But what will I hear? Is there really a big difference between a 6 and a 7. Is it worth the investment? By the way I’m 73.
Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
Have you tried changing the tubes of the Premier 17LS? Maybe it just needs new tubes. Nothing wrong with vintage gear but going back even further in the lineup is questionable, especially when it comes to reliability.
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Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
The First thing I Tried admin. I always have a new spare pair of tubes. My impression is that after two hours “on” the heights are getting Worse.
I Think a ET 7 is too expensive in Holland. I could afford myself an ET 6 or an ET 6 SE.
I Think a ET 7 is too expensive in Holland. I could afford myself an ET 6 or an ET 6 SE.
Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
Sorry to hear that. And I just saw that when you said "CJ 6 or CJ 7", I thought you were referring to getting a Premier 6 or 7, not the ET6/7. As the owner of the ET7s2, I can say it's a wonderful unit but at that price range there are many options on the market.
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Main stereo: ART Amplifier and ET7s2. 2nd stereo: PV-14L and MV-55. Previously Owned: PF2 preamp, Evolution 2000 Amp, PV-12AL preamp, D/A-2b Vacuum-Tube Digital Processor.
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Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
I hope to get a demo CJ TE 6 SE unit next thursday admin.
As we say in Holland: “you should not move an old tree”
As we say in Holland: “you should not move an old tree”
Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
That should be fun. Let us know how the demo goes.
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Main stereo: ART Amplifier and ET7s2. 2nd stereo: PV-14L and MV-55. Previously Owned: PF2 preamp, Evolution 2000 Amp, PV-12AL preamp, D/A-2b Vacuum-Tube Digital Processor.
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Main stereo: ART Amplifier and ET7s2. 2nd stereo: PV-14L and MV-55. Previously Owned: PF2 preamp, Evolution 2000 Amp, PV-12AL preamp, D/A-2b Vacuum-Tube Digital Processor.
Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
Promised
Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
I had the 6 SE about a week for a home trial. There is a difference but I think it’s a matter of taste. After maintenance the 17 LS sounds great again - very musical.
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Re: Premier 17 LS VS 6 and 7
Yes, that would be the case. That type of musicality you're experiencing from the Prem17LS is the golden glow that CJ was always known for. It had a sort of enveloping affect, tunes sort of wrap around you and have a very tangible effect, where you can virtually reach out and touch the musicians.
With CJ's newer versions, this level of musicality has been advanced on to another dimension. Such that, the latest ET series GAT and ART preamps simply get out of the way. They're far more transparent and neutral, as if there's no preamp at all! Which is a good thing but there are a few die-hard fans who are still very passionate about that golden glow era of musicality. I refer to that signature sound as the inner soul of the performance. The true essence of musical presentation and enjoyment at the highest level. Call it colored, caramel, syrupy... whatever, it's a unique and natural tone that is fully engaging. Once you're used to this, it's quite difficult to accept something very new and different.
A touch of that golden glow is what I prefer, and it's still found on CJ's Classic series amplifiers. Not so much on the ET top line and ART series gear, so it's definitely a good thing that JF still offers the Classic line. If CJ discontinued the Classic series altogether and only introduced the ART line-up, that type of sound would be a far margin from what CJ was known for.
As I've always said, if you're really enjoying those tunes to the max, on whatever CJ gear you have, and the gear is upto spec with a bit of extra maintenance, then the tunes are fine!
Cheers, RJ
With CJ's newer versions, this level of musicality has been advanced on to another dimension. Such that, the latest ET series GAT and ART preamps simply get out of the way. They're far more transparent and neutral, as if there's no preamp at all! Which is a good thing but there are a few die-hard fans who are still very passionate about that golden glow era of musicality. I refer to that signature sound as the inner soul of the performance. The true essence of musical presentation and enjoyment at the highest level. Call it colored, caramel, syrupy... whatever, it's a unique and natural tone that is fully engaging. Once you're used to this, it's quite difficult to accept something very new and different.
A touch of that golden glow is what I prefer, and it's still found on CJ's Classic series amplifiers. Not so much on the ET top line and ART series gear, so it's definitely a good thing that JF still offers the Classic line. If CJ discontinued the Classic series altogether and only introduced the ART line-up, that type of sound would be a far margin from what CJ was known for.
As I've always said, if you're really enjoying those tunes to the max, on whatever CJ gear you have, and the gear is upto spec with a bit of extra maintenance, then the tunes are fine!
Cheers, RJ