Re-tubing my PV-8

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grantn
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Re-tubing my PV-8

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I just acquired a used PV-8 off eBay. I hook it up four days ago and thankfully it worked. It sounds good but I thought it had excessive bass. I openned it up and I think I found the problem the previous owner put 12AX7's in V4, V5 and V6 tube sockets. V4 is possibly a sovak tube, markings have been wiped off except for handwrtten "12AX7" in Sharpie. V5 V6 are electro harmonix and V1 V2 look like Chinese tubes but no markings I hope they are 12AX7. V3 is a US made 5751.

Does anyone have suggestions on tube types and brands for a PV-8? A have NOS 12AX7 Mullard, good used tungsgram, good used RCA tubes. NOS 5751 Amperex, good used GE, Sylvannia, and Philips. And NOS 5965 US made tubes.

Finally, I am wondering if new production Tungsol or JJ 5751 tubes are any good. I am wondering if there are any truly "NOS" tubes on the market anymore and should switch to new production tubes.
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Re: Re-tubing my PV-8

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Vs 1 and 2 are 12AX7s, Vs 3 and 5 are 5751s, and Vs 4 and 6 (the cathode followers) are 5965s. See
http://www.conradjohnson.com/It_just_so ... a-PV8.html

If I were buying a complete set of new tubes for an '8 AND I used the fonostage, for a fine-sounding low-priced, New-Production 12AX7 I'd buy gold-pin JJs from TubeDepot...
https://store.tubedepot.com/products/jj ... acuum-tube
...selected for low noise. An upgrade from that MIGHT be the NP gold-pin Gold Lions...
https://store.tubedepot.com/products/ge ... acuum-tube
...again low-noise selected.

For 5751s, I'd buy the NP Tung-Sol...
https://store.tubedepot.com/products/tu ... acuum-tube
...again selected for low noise and microfonics since the linestage has so much gain (31dB).

I suggest you use the NOS 5965s you already have.

I'd also use Herbies tube dampers on the gain tubes (= all but the 5965s).
http://herbiesaudiolab.net/preamp.htm

I've been using these in appropriate sizes for decades; I find they reduce low-level edginess and microfonics very well. Here's my c-j MET1 with Herbies dampers around the three-front-channel Mullard M8080s. You would order SS-9s for the 12AX7-size tubes, as all of yours are.
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Here's one of my former Antique Sound Lab Hurricanes with Herbies dampers embracing the front-end 6SN7s.
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And here are my former ASL Explorer 805s with Herbies dampers around ALL tubes.
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FWIW, I'd never substitute 5751s for 12AX7s in fono stages as that likely would foul the fono-eq, but if the linestage had more gain than I wanted, I'd sure start substituting 12AY7s, 12AV7s, 12AT7s, and/or 12AU7s for the 5751.
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