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by bear
Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:15 pm
Forum: Amplifiers
Topic: ART 108A amp
Replies: 158
Views: 20990

ART 108A amp

So who is going to be the first to buy CJ's new $48K Class A 160 watt monoblock amplifier featuring 8 KT88s per channel?
by bear
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

The resolution and detail that the ML panels are capable of is truly extraordinary. Going back to the ML's after my short time with a cheap bookshelf speaker highlighted this. Of course the top small monitors will have much more definition and give the ML's some competition. It is no wonder to me th...
by bear
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:23 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

AJ,

Do you know the list price of the small two way Revel?
by bear
Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Just for fun I hooked up a pair of Elac B6's with a pair of REL woofers. The B6 is a circa $250 small 2 way bookshelf speaker. I stand mounted them and just very casually set them in place next to the 11a's. The woofer crossover was set approximately so, for sure, I had less than an optimal set up. ...
by bear
Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Agree that you don't need many systems in your home. At one time I set up a second system and wound up never listening to it since my main set up was superior sounding. If you are going to get the CLX that has to be your main system deserving of the best components you have. You will never listen to...
by bear
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:37 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Since you can't get much useful info out of a demonstration of any product at a dealer or even at someone's home what is a buyer to do? Read the reviews? I don't trust any of them. My experience has found that they don't tell the truth. So basically you have to take a flyer on your purchase. You buy...
by bear
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

The problem with trusting your own ears is that it is almost impossible to audition equipment today at a dealer. The item you want is never on display. Also what you hear at a dealer means nothing. Different electronics and room. Really a useless listening experience and a waste of time. The 11a did...
by bear
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Just a thought...

If I decide to change my speaker for the sake of an "upgrade" other than the CLX what should I consider? I have heard many of the speakers on the market and none have sounded better than my 11a. The ML ESL panel is just superb.
by bear
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:09 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

AJ, when using the TEA 1 do you use your cartridge straight into the 54 dB gain or are you using a step up transformer?
by bear
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

For whatever its worth Harry Pearson, the famous reviewer, used a small room for some of his big speakers. His music room #2 measured 12 x 16 feet, almost the same as mine. He used gigantic speakers such as the Infinity IRS and the Magnepan Tympani in this room. The side wings of the IRS were only s...
by bear
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:34 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Roberto: "and let your ears decide."

The best post on this entire site.
by bear
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Good points by everyone on the CLX bass response and the use of woofers.

The woofer issue is secondary to me. The main point is will the CLX work in my room.

I like AJ's "the experiment" phrase.
by bear
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:10 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

I have tried both speaker level and line level with woofers before. The speaker level always gave a more coherent blend to the main speaker. This is because the character of your main amp blends into the woofer. This is what REL recommends too. With the CLX both ways should be tried. ML's hybrids ar...
by bear
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:43 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

I have been asking myself the same question. What am I going to get that the 11a is not giving me now? Another question. These speakers come in huge boxes. Are owners throwing away the boxes or storing them just in case you have to ship them again. I'm sure you could by a box from ML if you needed i...
by bear
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:28 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Great post Roberto. Love it.
by bear
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Oh no!! I just took my temperature and it is high. I have a fever. Must be that dreaded CLX disease.... I want to thank everyone for their concern and opinions as to whether I should get a CLX. Greatly appreciated that all of you would take your time to ponder my situation. I did recalculate and cou...
by bear
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:18 am
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Can the interconnect to the woofer be very inexpensive? Quality does not matter since you are only dealing with the last octave or two?
by bear
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Preamp is GAT S2

REL recommends speaker level. Have you tried that? You have to supply your own cables?
by bear
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Do you connect the BF-210 at speaker level or line level? You have to supply your own cables or do they come with the woofers?
by bear
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: Non-CJ Products-Audio
Topic: Martin Logan ESL speakers
Replies: 396
Views: 220053

Re: Martin Logan ESL speakers

Roberto that sounds awesome! So happy for you liking your system so much.

So are you saying I should get the CLX for my room that is slightly smaller than yours?